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How To Use Full Red Far Red Flower Booster Lights

  • #one

Greetings 1 & all.
I've heard some conflicting info on the utilize of deep & far red LEDs. The LED rig I've just bought from Invisible Sun came with an actress PCB for gratis (it was their birthday & were feeling generous). This gratuitous PCB comes in the form of a strip & consists of:
108 x LM301H (3000k)
iv x LH351H Deep Red
two x LH351H Far Cerise
https://invisiblesunled.co.u.k./collections/breakthrough-boards/products/ish-sun-strip

It volition be used in conjunction with the Invisible Sun 240-H which is powered by 4 x PCBs comprised of cri80 Samsung lm301b in a mixture of 3000k and 6500k
(90 x samsung leds in 3000k
30 x samsung leds in 6500k)
https://invisiblesunled.co.united kingdom/collections/diy-kits-custom-rigs/products/ish240-diy-kit

The ISH 240-H volition be running off a Meanwell 240 watt driver & the IS R-strip volition run off its ain 60watt driver and then they can exist on divide timers & run independently.

My question is... When should the R-strip exist on?

should I run it "20 on/iv off" like the primary light? This would increase the overall power to 300watt from 240! or volition the far reds cause stretching? . Should I run information technology purely during blossom to give the found an actress nudge during that critical fourth dimension? should I run it with the main light during "morning & evening" to replicate the spectrum change during the twenty-four hour period? or should I accept information technology come on before the master lite & let information technology stay on afterwards the master low-cal has gone off to gently "wake & put to bed". Considering information technology only has 4 x deep crimson & 2 x far cherry, will the spectrum actually make much departure?

I simply have a minor grow space. A 70x70(cm) tent. I'll exist growing 1 large auto, organically & in soil.

*I posted something similar on the Invisible Sun thread but that was maybe besides "tucked away" to be noticed so thought I'd inquire a similar question here. Apologies if that's non the done thing. I've never actually used forums earlier.

Thanks for whatever advice
:)

  • #2

Greetings one & all.
I've heard some conflicting info on the use of deep & far scarlet LEDs. The LED rig I've just bought from Invisible Sun came with an extra PCB for free (it was their birthday & were feeling generous). This free PCB comes in the grade of a strip & consists of:
108 x LM301H (3000k)
4 x LH351H Deep Ruddy
2 x LH351H Far Red
https://invisiblesunled.co.uk/collections/quantum-boards/products/ish-sun-strip

It will be used in conjunction with the Invisible Sun 240-H which is powered by 4 x PCBs comprised of cri80 Samsung lm301b in a mixture of 3000k and 6500k
(90 x samsung leds in 3000k
30 x samsung leds in 6500k)
https://invisiblesunled.co.uk/collections/diy-kits-custom-rigs/products/ish240-diy-kit

The ISH 240-H will be running off a Meanwell 240 watt driver & the IS R-strip volition run off its own 60watt driver and so they can be on separate timers & run independently.

My question is... When should the R-strip exist on?

should I run it "20 on/4 off" like the main calorie-free? This would increase the overall ability to 300watt from 240! or volition the far reds crusade stretching? . Should I run it purely during flower to give the plant an actress nudge during that critical fourth dimension? should I run information technology with the main light during "morning & evening" to replicate the spectrum modify during the twenty-four hour period? or should I accept it come on before the primary light & permit it stay on after the main light has gone off to gently "wake & put to bed". Considering it merely has 4 10 deep blood-red & ii x far crimson, volition the spectrum actually brand much divergence?

I simply accept a small grow space. A 70x70(cm) tent. I'll be growing one large car, organically & in soil.

*I posted something similar on the Invisible Dominicus thread but that was mayhap likewise "tucked away" to be noticed and then thought I'd inquire a similar question here. Apologies if that'south not the done thing. I've never really used forums before.

Thanks for any advice
:)

I would like to know the same thing! I am using my far red strip just during flowering and I accept it coming on and turning off at the same time every bit my V2 boards

  • #four

@Arthur Many thanks for the link! I take just watched the video & tin can now claim to have a very flimsy grasp on the Emerson effect... very flimsy :D
One issue with "The Doc'southward" explanations is at the beginning of the video he talks about iii different "types" (for want of a better word) of flowering plants:
Long Day Plants (flowers when days are long)
Short 24-hour interval Plants (flowers when days are short)
I estimate both of these could exist considered photoperiods? Anyway, he goes on to explain the Emerson outcome on both the photo flow styles of plants & from what I can get together he suggests that, for "short day plants" (photoperiod cannabis for example), additional deep/far red calorie-free just before the terminate of the light cycle can encourage flowering.... very proficient.
However, he and then briefly mentions "24-hour interval neutral plants". Plants that aren't affected by the length of the day & flower when they are "ready". I'm guessing these could be considered automobile bloom plants? He doesn't keep to talk about the Emerson upshot in regards to "day neutral" plants and then I'one thousand at a scrap of a loss.

@ChroToker Have you run the same ready up without the utilize of the far reds & if so, take you noticed a difference?

Does anyone have any experience messing near with deep/far reds during different stages of the growth cycle?

  • #six

@Arthur Many thanks for the link! I have just watched the video & tin can now claim to take a very flimsy grasp on the Emerson effect... very flimsy :D
One issue with "The Doc'due south" explanations is at the offset of the video he talks about 3 different "types" (for desire of a better word) of flowering plants:
Long Day Plants (flowers when days are long)
Short Day Plants (flowers when days are curt)
I guess both of these could exist considered photoperiods? Anyway, he goes on to explain the Emerson result on both the photograph period styles of plants & from what I can get together he suggests that, for "short day plants" (photoperiod cannabis for case), boosted deep/far cerise light but earlier the end of the light cycle tin encourage flowering.... very good.
Withal, he so briefly mentions "day neutral plants". Plants that aren't affected by the length of the day & flower when they are "set up". I'm guessing these could be considered auto flower plants? He doesn't become on to talk about the Emerson upshot in regards to "day neutral" plants and so I'chiliad at a bit of a loss.

@ChroToker Take you run the same set up without the use of the far reds & if then, have you noticed a divergence?

Does anyone take whatsoever experience messing about with deep/far reds during different stages of the growth wheel?

Unfortunately not, I but got the strip nigh 3 weeks ago but I want to know all-time do for information technology for my next run.

  • #vii

I know just enough to get myself into trouble!

Isn't that ever the example :D

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  • #viii

Unfortunately not, I only got the strip nigh 3 weeks agone only I want to know best practice for it for my side by side run.

Keep us posted on how it goes! The brief bit of looking into it I I did makes me think it's maybe meliorate to run reds for a short period at the end of the light cycle during flower. However, that R strip's deep & far reds are but a fraction of the LEDs on board so mayhap it is but worth running it total time during blossom...
How are you finding your main IS light? What power are yous running it on & what altitude from the canopy are you at?

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  • #9

Keep u.s.a. posted on how it goes! The cursory chip of looking into information technology I I did makes me remember it's maybe meliorate to run reds for a short menstruation at the terminate of the low-cal bicycle during blossom. However, that R strip's deep & far reds are merely a fraction of the LEDs on lath so maybe information technology is just worth running it full fourth dimension during flower...
How are you finding your main IS light? What power are yous running it on & what distance from the canopy are you at?

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I'one thousand loving the lite! Never had such dumbo frosty buds, I am at full power and 12 inches from canopy but I'thousand running photoperiod plants and so think they can handle more intensity.

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